Linda mentioned the dishwasher is not cleaning like it used to. We purchased this Maytag in 2001 and it has served extremely well. She showed me a bottle that a little grunge that remained at the corner of the bottom. So I found my glasses, and on inspection found many of the ports on both the upper and lower wash arm were plugged! No wonder it was not working as before. I found a youtube video very helpful in how to remove the lower arm. Turns out to be simple. Then with Jeremy’s help we removed the upper arm which is also easy once you see how to remove.
I pulled most of the contamination out through the holes with fingers, toothpick and a dental pick. Then took the wash arms outside where I could get lots of water pressure to wash the arms out real good. The arms are in perfect shape other than the observed contamination. The center hole of the lower wash arm guiding the water from the pump was also plugged with contamination. Most of the contaminates appeared to be very small plastic chunks, likely not from the dishwasher.
{Youtube link - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NSBubWyofN0 }
I suspect all will wash much better now. Can hardly wait to run a load.
Wednesday, March 5, 2014
Tuesday, February 25, 2014
RV Power Converter Failure and Replacement
Our converter for the RV failed on our January 2014 Southern California trip so after the first couple of days the battery would not charge above 11.7 volts. On line there were lots of complaints about the Elexir Power Converter Charger model ELX-20 and I am unable to get the schematic. The converter is no longer made. After a physical inspection passed, no burnt resistors and such, I ordered a replacement converter that was rated high for $98 including shipping.
The new WFCO Ultra III Power Center model WF-8725P arrived in about a week. I was able to install this unit using the circuit breaker from the removed converter. The new Power Center can use a main breaker of 30 Amps however I have a 20 Amp in place. 20 Amps will likely be enough for our little Aliner trailer. This circuit just powers the 12 volt converter portion of the Power Center which can output 25 Amps 12 Vdc power. The unit uses two more 15 amp circuit breakers for 120 vac circuits in the trailer which power outlets, microwave, refrigerator at times and the air conditioner. There is also four 12 vdc circuits for refrigerator at times, furnace, radio, carbon monoxide detector, lights and water pump. The new unit uses aluminum wire which is hard for me to accept since the trailer uses copper wire. The crossover point is the weak link as I understand.
From Power Center 12 Vdc circuits -
Green - water pump and furnace (In USA Green is safety ground)
Yellow - inside lights and radio
Blue -
Red - RV battery charge
The Operation modes of the Power Center are -
Bulk mode: Puts out 14. 4 Vdc for maximum of 4 hours.
Absorption mode: 13.6Vdc which is the normal mode.
Float mode: 13.2 Vdc for a trickle charge of the battery.
I still may be able to repair the old converter I suppose, but without a schematic it might be a challenge and I see some of the parts do not have legible part numbers. Might just toss the bad one.
After two days of 120 Vac being off the RV battery reads 12.7 Vdc which is so much better than the 11.7 Vdc we had before.
Per several charts off the internet -
Volts --- Remaining Capacity
12.63 --- 100%
12.54 --- 90%
12.45 --- 80% (75%)
12.36 --- 70%
12.27 --- 60%
12.18 --- 50% (12.24 --- 50%)
12.09 --- 40%
12.00 --- 30% (12.06 --- 25%)
11.91 --- 20%
11.82 --- 10% (11.89 --- 0%)
11.80 --- 0%
The new WFCO Ultra III Power Center model WF-8725P arrived in about a week. I was able to install this unit using the circuit breaker from the removed converter. The new Power Center can use a main breaker of 30 Amps however I have a 20 Amp in place. 20 Amps will likely be enough for our little Aliner trailer. This circuit just powers the 12 volt converter portion of the Power Center which can output 25 Amps 12 Vdc power. The unit uses two more 15 amp circuit breakers for 120 vac circuits in the trailer which power outlets, microwave, refrigerator at times and the air conditioner. There is also four 12 vdc circuits for refrigerator at times, furnace, radio, carbon monoxide detector, lights and water pump. The new unit uses aluminum wire which is hard for me to accept since the trailer uses copper wire. The crossover point is the weak link as I understand.
From Power Center 12 Vdc circuits -
Green - water pump and furnace (In USA Green is safety ground)
Yellow - inside lights and radio
Blue -
Red - RV battery charge
The Operation modes of the Power Center are -
Bulk mode: Puts out 14. 4 Vdc for maximum of 4 hours.
Absorption mode: 13.6Vdc which is the normal mode.
Float mode: 13.2 Vdc for a trickle charge of the battery.
I still may be able to repair the old converter I suppose, but without a schematic it might be a challenge and I see some of the parts do not have legible part numbers. Might just toss the bad one.
After two days of 120 Vac being off the RV battery reads 12.7 Vdc which is so much better than the 11.7 Vdc we had before.
Per several charts off the internet -
Volts --- Remaining Capacity
12.63 --- 100%
12.54 --- 90%
12.45 --- 80% (75%)
12.36 --- 70%
12.27 --- 60%
12.18 --- 50% (12.24 --- 50%)
12.09 --- 40%
12.00 --- 30% (12.06 --- 25%)
11.91 --- 20%
11.82 --- 10% (11.89 --- 0%)
11.80 --- 0%
Saturday, October 19, 2013
Jim & Linda's 'Aliner RV' Propane Repair
Aliner Propane Issue
Furnace worked one night while camping on the Colombia River although several times the furnace did not start on the first try but the furnace did start on the automatic restart. The second night the furnace never would light the propane.
Before this trip I found a leak where the hose from the tank connects to the regulator so I replace the hose. This hose apparently has a valve installed per the governments requirement to shut off the propane if there is a surge of propane due to a cut hose or some such.
Checking the furnace system out in the shop. First I verified there were nice electrical sparks available to light the furnace. Then I connecting a plastic hose to the propane line right at the heater entrance and configured a ’U’ loop in the clear hose. I filled the hose with about 17 inches of water and let the water settle evenly at the bottom of the ’U’. Then I turned on the propane and measured the height the water rose. You can either measure how much the rise is on one side of the ’U’ and double the result or measure the water rise on one side of the ’U’ and add the amount the water dropped on the other side of the ’U’. The result is in inches of Water Column (WC).
I measured 13 inches which is great as 11 inches of WC is sufficient for the furnace per the specification. However when I turned on the stove also the pressure dropped to 8 ¾ inch which is way too low. I then disconnected the tubing and left the connection open to the furnace. I disconnected the hose going to the output of the regulator and blew through all that tubing and hose easily.
Then I reconnect the hose to the heater and using a 12 volt battery eliminator energized the two gas solenoids on the furnace and then blew through the hose. Air blew easily for 3 seconds then got much harder. I reconfigured the furnace heater element screen to be outside the furnace so I could see the flame in action and connected all hoses. The flame when lit by a hand held lighter reached about 3 inches tall and covered only about ¼ of the wire screen that should all be lit. (Maybe 6 square inches of surface if working correctly.) Then with the furnace lit and turning on the stove the furnace flame diminished even more and turned quite yellow.
I installed Bob’s old regulator and it performed the same. I removed the Aliner regulator and observed clear oil leaking from the inside. I purchased and installed a new regulator model GR9959 (8EA9)from Clear Creek RV for $32. Now the furnace lit just fine with large flame maybe a foot tall and covering 90% of the heating element screen. The stove also ran at the same time with full flame.
I then reinstalled everything back into the furnace and using soapy water checked all the connections for gas leaks. The furnace operated very well. The next day I turned on the propane at the tank and once again the furnace did not light! So I disconnected the hose at the propane bottle and burned all the gas from the line at the stove burner. The next morning I connected up the bottle and opened the bottle valve extremely slowly. I could hear gas flow and it flowed for like 10 seconds slowly while the lines were pressurized. Then I opened the bottle’s valve all the way. I lit the stove which takes 10 seconds of flow before the air is purged and the gas reaches the stove. Then I turned on the furnace and it lit the first time. While the furnace was running I lit all three burners of the stove and all is working as designed.
In conclusion the first hose was replaced due to a slight propane leak at the hose fitting going to the RV. The RV regulator is likely bad due to lack of flow and also the oil leaking out of the regulator. (I did cut open up the regulator to see if oil is suppose to be inside.) (Bob’s regulator remains in unknown condition.) I suspect that the valve on the bottle needs to be opened ever so slowly to prevent that government mandated excess safety valve in the hose from stopping the propane flow. There is little documentation about this government required valve. You have to learn by error. (Government at its normal confusing best.) The government means well but performs poorly at times.
Here you are able to see the clear hose with propane pressure applied and water level raised. Also the furnace burner is removed.
This is the furnace burner being inspected. All ok.
Notice the very low flame. Only 1/4 of the screen has flame.
With new regulator we have a large flame filling 3/4's of the screen.
This is similar to the "Excess Flow Valve".
This is the bad regulator and was replaced. The defective one appeared to be leaking oil.
Tuesday, August 27, 2013
Nate’s Heat Pump Repair
Nate’s heat pump became silent. The indoor blower did not even function. We inspected it some and saw the fuses were good so Nate kind of figured it must be the controller electronics card. Nate and I looked on the internet for another card but everyone said it is now obsolete. We saw prices for the card as high as $500 but there were no cards available. Nate called the repairman who came out and confirmed it must be the card. So the repair company tried to purchase a card and thought they had one but when it came it was not compatible. They recommended changing the indoor blower system for $1,800.
With nothing to loose Nate and I played around some, not knowing much about these type thermostats or air handlers and heat pumps. We decided to remove the suspect controller page assembly which involved labeling about 12 wires and pulling a 10 wire edge connector. There is no schematic that I could find on the page assembly but at least many of the input output wires were labeled on the board which is a big help.
I brought the page assembly home and examined it with high power glasses and a magnifying glass. Wow, lots of corrosion. It must be getting some moisture from the heat pump indoor coils which are located above the board. Then the edge connector contacts on the board were extremely corroded.
So I pulled out the dremmel tool and polished all the edge connector contacts until they were bright and shinny. I noticed the 3rd lead over was labeled ‘fan’ and the lead was 90% gone, the worst of all the leads by far. And since it is the fan that did not start I found a place on the board to solder a wire to the same trace and knew I could bypass this connector with this hardwire. Also on the board the capacitors had a lot of corrosion on the ends also. The board was heavily shellacked and the shellac had turned very dark so I could not read all the numbers on the two IC chips. One chip started with 68HC which is likely a type of microprocessor I am familiar with. But microprocessors are hard to work with if you don’t have the code or at least the flow chart. Fortunately they seldom fail.
Well we reconnected the board and jumpered the ‘fan’ lead to the yellow wire on the thermostat cabling. Now for the first time in a while the fan started up on the air handler when the fan switch was energized on the thermostat. Unfortunately the 5 amp fuse would blow when either heat or cooling was turned on!
So I brought the board back home and replaced 3 corroded capacitors. On one I did not have a matching size so instead of a 33 microfarad 50 volt capacitor, I installed a 10 microfarad 50 volt in parallel with a 22 microfarad 35 volt. (With the board installed I measured the voltage across these capacitors at 34 volts which is awful close to the voltage rating.)
I further observed two places that had turned black indicating electrical arching on the board. These burnt spots were at the relay contact traces. The board traces left only 1/8 inch between traces and there is 240 vac on these tracts. I was able to remove all the blackened board using a dental pick. It amazes me if these were really caused by current leakage or arching that the board did not blow up and completely destroy itself. I also washed much of the contamination off the board using alcohol.
Eventually I realized the ‘fan’ lead on the edge connector was not used on this installation so I removed my clever jumper, replaced the fuse and walla all seems to work now. The fan comes on and heat and cool functions work. We have not run the heat pump for an extended time yet though.
It is interesting that when one turns up a thermostat It sometimes can take like 10 minutes for the outside unit to start the big fan or the compressor. Not knowing the micro-controller programming leaves one in the dark why this happens.
I ordered all new capacitors of the right farad and voltage rating from Digikey and should get them in maybe 3 days. They cost like 50 cents apiece. So if needed we can quickly install some new capacitors. The ones I put in were used and could easily be 20 years old.
Maybe we should consider putting a metal shield above this control board to divert any water droplets away from this board. The system is about 18 years old.
Bottom line - The main problem with the system was the corroded leads on the edge connector making no contact. After polishing they are likely almost as good as new.
With nothing to loose Nate and I played around some, not knowing much about these type thermostats or air handlers and heat pumps. We decided to remove the suspect controller page assembly which involved labeling about 12 wires and pulling a 10 wire edge connector. There is no schematic that I could find on the page assembly but at least many of the input output wires were labeled on the board which is a big help.
I brought the page assembly home and examined it with high power glasses and a magnifying glass. Wow, lots of corrosion. It must be getting some moisture from the heat pump indoor coils which are located above the board. Then the edge connector contacts on the board were extremely corroded.
So I pulled out the dremmel tool and polished all the edge connector contacts until they were bright and shinny. I noticed the 3rd lead over was labeled ‘fan’ and the lead was 90% gone, the worst of all the leads by far. And since it is the fan that did not start I found a place on the board to solder a wire to the same trace and knew I could bypass this connector with this hardwire. Also on the board the capacitors had a lot of corrosion on the ends also. The board was heavily shellacked and the shellac had turned very dark so I could not read all the numbers on the two IC chips. One chip started with 68HC which is likely a type of microprocessor I am familiar with. But microprocessors are hard to work with if you don’t have the code or at least the flow chart. Fortunately they seldom fail.
Well we reconnected the board and jumpered the ‘fan’ lead to the yellow wire on the thermostat cabling. Now for the first time in a while the fan started up on the air handler when the fan switch was energized on the thermostat. Unfortunately the 5 amp fuse would blow when either heat or cooling was turned on!
So I brought the board back home and replaced 3 corroded capacitors. On one I did not have a matching size so instead of a 33 microfarad 50 volt capacitor, I installed a 10 microfarad 50 volt in parallel with a 22 microfarad 35 volt. (With the board installed I measured the voltage across these capacitors at 34 volts which is awful close to the voltage rating.)
I further observed two places that had turned black indicating electrical arching on the board. These burnt spots were at the relay contact traces. The board traces left only 1/8 inch between traces and there is 240 vac on these tracts. I was able to remove all the blackened board using a dental pick. It amazes me if these were really caused by current leakage or arching that the board did not blow up and completely destroy itself. I also washed much of the contamination off the board using alcohol.
Eventually I realized the ‘fan’ lead on the edge connector was not used on this installation so I removed my clever jumper, replaced the fuse and walla all seems to work now. The fan comes on and heat and cool functions work. We have not run the heat pump for an extended time yet though.
It is interesting that when one turns up a thermostat It sometimes can take like 10 minutes for the outside unit to start the big fan or the compressor. Not knowing the micro-controller programming leaves one in the dark why this happens.
I ordered all new capacitors of the right farad and voltage rating from Digikey and should get them in maybe 3 days. They cost like 50 cents apiece. So if needed we can quickly install some new capacitors. The ones I put in were used and could easily be 20 years old.
Maybe we should consider putting a metal shield above this control board to divert any water droplets away from this board. The system is about 18 years old.
Bottom line - The main problem with the system was the corroded leads on the edge connector making no contact. After polishing they are likely almost as good as new.
The controller board
The edge connector is bottom left, there is no contact material on this side.
This is before cleaning.
This is the edge connector before cleaning.
The edge connector after cleaning and polishing.
Notice the 3rd tab from left is missing most of the conductive metal.
Some of the corrosion before cleaning.
Saturday, August 10, 2013
The A-liner RV Refrigerator Not Cooling
The A-liner uses a Dometic model 4223 gas, 12 volt and 120 vac refrigerator. With gas it was cooling by only 10 degrees cooler than the outside temperature.
I removed then disassembled the burner assembly. All seemed clean except for the burner jet which was corroded some. The miniscule hole that limit’s the gas appeared to be corroded slightly. I cleaned all with Super Clean then alcohol using an old toothbrush and then reassembled. Now the flame is extremely blue to the point it is hard to see in sunlight.
After several hours of operation the refrigerator measured 35 degrees while the outside temperature was 80 degrees. Looks like all is working.
I removed then disassembled the burner assembly. All seemed clean except for the burner jet which was corroded some. The miniscule hole that limit’s the gas appeared to be corroded slightly. I cleaned all with Super Clean then alcohol using an old toothbrush and then reassembled. Now the flame is extremely blue to the point it is hard to see in sunlight.
After several hours of operation the refrigerator measured 35 degrees while the outside temperature was 80 degrees. Looks like all is working.
This is the clean burner assembly.
This is the jet (before cleaning) with the small hole in the center.
Sunday, July 28, 2013
Jim and Linda's new high efficiency mini ductless heat pump!
The following is information on Jim & Linda’s new high efficiency mini ductless heat pump. Our Fujitsu 18,000 BTU/h unit was installed May 3, 2013 by Quality Heating. This unit runs on a 20 amp 220 VAC circuit at less than 7 amps maximum.
The Fujitsu has the highest efficiency in the heating configuration of all the mini ductless heat pumps I looked at. The rate for the heat efficiency is listed as “Heating Seasonal Performance Factor” or HSPF. This value is calculated by taking the annual heating requirements including the defrost cycles and dividing by the total electrical power used. Our unit was rated at 12.0 which is lots higher than the units built just 7 years ago. I read where Fujitsu sells the most units world wide for any manufacturer. This unit operates at full efficiency down to -5 degrees Fahrenheit.
We were very fortunate to qualify for a $1,200 Puget Power rebate along with a $1,200 RePower rebate since we had been heating almost solely with wood heat and our backup heat was radiant ceiling heat along with some baseboard heat.
I considered getting a Diakin or a Mitsubishi heat pump also. They both seemed like great units.
Quality heating did not have the cheapest bid until the rebates were included. They were the only ones that figured out how to get us the full $1,200 RePower rebate which then made them the cheapest bid.
It shall be an interesting heating season this Fall and Winter. I suspect we will just have fires occasionally. Maybe fires will be needed in the coldest 2 weeks of the year although that remains to be seen.
We have only used the unit to cool a couple of times this Summer as Linda somehow controls curtains and windows in a way that keeps our house cool enough all day.
The bottom line is we now have $1,679.30 invested in this unit. I think we will get another $300 back at income tax time due to a Tax Credit for Consumer Energy Efficiency. That will make our total outlay $1,379.30. Such a deal.
Per a comparison chart from the Coleman company they rated the cost of different heat sources to deliver 100,000 BTUs of heat as follows.
$0.96 Heat pump with an HSPF of 10.0 (Ours is more efficient than this one.)
$1.31 80% AFUE Natural Gas Furnace
$2.85 100% Electric Furnace
$3.13 80% AFUE Propane Gas Furnace
$3.35 80% AFUE Oil Furnace
I have another chart with very similar numbers as the above chart.
Tuesday, June 18, 2013
Irrigation Pump Failure
Every October I pull in our irrigation pump due to pipes freezing and cracking and also high creek water flooding the pump area occasionally. Then in about May I reconnect the pump. This year after reinstalling the pump which takes about an hour the pump motor did not start or even hum.
After inspecting the pump pressure switch I found it in terrible condition. Lots of corrosion likely due to entry of rain water all last year. I was able to clean it up much to my amazement and it is likely as good as new. Two lug screws were so damaged I replaced them with some ground screws which I do not use down there by the creek. (I don’t want a better ground down there than at the house which may draw too much current for the #12 wiring.) After reassembling the pressure switch, the pump still did not power up or even hum.
I found a little one inch round device that sort of looked like a time delay for a start coil on the motor. This device was corroded and was a likely culprit. (The device is labeled Klixon CET54CY 12A with 3 connections.) I did measure the resistance of the two windings in the motor and they both had continuity. So I used the web mail at Center Electric and asked if they had a replacement. No answer for 4 days so I called them this morning. The guy did not even know they had web mail. Oh-well, he knew right off what the device was. It is an over current protection device. (12 Amps). It has a heating element that under an over current condition, heats up a disk which makes the disk convex rather than concave which opens up the power to the motor. Interestingly the Center Electric person says these devices take about 6 month to order and cost about $60. He recommended just joining all 3 wires together effectively bypassing the protection.
I tried joining the logical 2 wires together and no luck. When I joined all 3 wires together the motor ran fine.
This pump is an old dog with a separate jet plumed with it. (A. O. Smith Corporation motor SKGET54CY mod C48K2FB4. I use it to pump creek water to the lawn and for other non-domestic uses. I was able to get it all running today and watered the lawn.
Over Current Protector
Disk from Over Current Protector
Notice flame for testing.
I was curious how it worked.
This old pump with jet.
Over Current Protector installed.
Note - The AC start capacitor also was damaged and I was able to get a new one from and outfit called Jafco for $2. However a minimum order of $10 plus shipping. So I ended up with a few extra items ordered.
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